Home Forums Discussion Forum In Dr. Brand’s assertion, how much difference is there between the ideas that sometimes God causes the conditions of suffering and that sometimes God is merely using what has already happened?

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  • In Dr. Brand’s assertion, how much difference is there between the ideas that sometimes God causes the conditions of suffering and that sometimes God is merely using what has already happened?

    Deleted User replied 3 years, 4 months ago 10 Members · 10 Replies
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    Deleted User
    07/25/2021 at 03:40

    There is no different because both pull us to think about God and our eternity. He opens our eyes, heart, ears, minds, and souls to accept the fact that we are nothing without His strength, guidance, and glory,

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    Deleted User
    07/09/2021 at 01:22

    For me there is a big difference. I don’t think that God causes our suffering at all. Our suffering are a result of our own arrogance and stupidity. It is a result of our fall from Grace. God uses these things, even though He could turn his back on us, to help us walk in righteousness towards the eternal.

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    Deleted User
    07/04/2021 at 20:51

    God will use some suffering to draw us near to him. Sometimes when we are headed away from God he will cause an event of suffering to lead us back to him. An example would be Jonah. When he ran from God and did not want to do his will God caused him to be eaten by the whale. Then there are times when God will use suffering because of choices we made to sin in order to get us back on track and to accomplish his will. They are similar as they both serve to get us closer to God.

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    Deleted User
    06/29/2021 at 19:20

    God causing suffering brings to mind a cruelty that is uncharacteristic of God. I don’t think of Him causing suffering as much as using suffering to draw us to Him, to see our need of Him. This seems similar to God using our decisions or situations to draw us too Him. His ultimate goal is to show us that all things do work together to bring us into a deeper relationship with Him. It shows us that there is a purpose for everything, and nothing is wasted. His purposes are always rooted in love for us.

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    Deleted User
    06/22/2021 at 15:53

    I think most of us struggle to accept that God could or would cause or instigate suffering. This seems too much the act of an uncaring God. Yet as Job expresses it in Job 2:10: “Shall we accept good from God, and not trouble?”
    The second assertion suggests that God is greater than anything that happens to us. As Romans 8:28 states:  And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

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